Abqu wrote:Building or rebuilding a wikipedia is gonna be tough work, and it's hard to be motivated when there are excellent encyclopedic sources already available.
I helped to build the original wikia. It was mostly a pain because we were missing data and images. We have datamined most of the data, and we have most (or maybe all at this point) of the images we need. My time was divided between capturing images, editing images, uploading images, and then finally filling in the information for those images. The actual in-game images were then supplied by Cloudcade staff, and I table flipped my sand mandalas. If we copy and paste what is already available between Richard's spreadsheet and the existing wikia, it won't be nearly as complicated as you might think.
A useful and functional wikia is NOT Richard's spreadsheet. I love it to death because it is better than the wikia, but better than does not make it a full blown substitute.
The purpose of the wikia is "how do I do stuff?" People aren't logging in to see all of the wonderful art and a neatly organized data sheet. They want to know how to unlock heroes. How to unlock workers, buildings, and any number of things. They want to know how craft times work. How the cauldron works. This thing is locked or costs gems; why do I want to pay for these things? How does it all work.
Yes, some people want to know the data sheet information, and we can include that on the Wikia. But that information should be nested. The way the current wikia works for Item data is 1.) Click on Blueprints. 2.) Click on Blueprint type. 3.) See only common blueprints with Chest and Package items nested. 4.) Click on an item and see table text table text table text table text. It's a UI nightmare.
You need to be able to get to what you need to know with as few page changes as possible, as little scrolling as possible, and as little reading as possible. Granted, not everyone is looking for the same things all the time. I guarantee you 99% of players don't care about the discipline numbers of items. Can and should it be in the wikia? Yes. Should it be first or second click data? Not even close.
This how the page currently looks.
This is how the page needs to look. Viewing wikis on phones is a very real thing, despite what anyone is going to say.